October 7, 2025

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Foundation Season three has just dropped his final episode, “The Darkness”, and he was full of revelations and twists and turns. When Io9 had the chance to speak to Synnøve Karlsen, who plays Bayta Mallow in the program Apple TV +, we did not hesitate, because Bayta plays a crucial role in what is going on in the culmination, and there is no doubt that she will have an impact on the fourth season which has just been announced from the show.

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FoundationThe final of the season of the season brought the long -awaited confrontation between Gaal Dornick (Lou Llobell), the head of the second foundation and the mysterious mule (Pilou Asbæk). And we do not use lightly “long -awaited” lightly; Gaal literally set in stasis for 152 years, so she would be alive during the rise of the mule. She has had lively visions of their violent confrontation for years.

So when the moment finally arrived in “The Darkness”, viewers were shocked to see that the mule is not at all the mule. He is just a pirate being married by the real Mule: Bayta Mallow (played by Karlsen), a rich worldly who hid his true identity all the season. Surprise!

Cheryl Eddy, io9: in episode 10, we learn that Bayta has a great secret. In what part of the process have you learned its true story?

Synnøve Karlsen: I learned early. When I met for the role, they had sort of suggesting that there was something below that they had not yet revealed. And then once I officially signed, they told me exactly who she really was, which was very exciting.

IO9: How did you instile this in your performance? Were there specific moments leading to episode 10 which looked like public clues?

Karlsen: It’s really difficult because, as I played it, she (she) was just acting in honesty and in truth what she believes. There is just one thing that she retains throughout, so it’s this tacit thing that she just doesn’t say. I would say that in all areas, it was quite easy to play in a really authentic way, because they are all goals that she really wanted, really.

What was more difficult are moments when, say, (the Balladeer) Magnifico plays the Visi-Sonor, or Magnifico talks about his relationship with the captain. No one looks at Bayta and the camera is on Bayta. And I think that in these moments, I just let her feel what she would have felt. Fortunately, there were no lines, so that didn’t give anything.

But I really think for the spectator, once they have known the revelation, when you come back and look at it, it will be quite obvious. There will be real moments to go out. I mean, as a spectator myself, even if I am in it, when I look at him, I said to myself: “Oh, my God, it’s so obvious!” Fortunately, I don’t think many people have yet taken revelation. So I hope I kept it sufficiently subtle.

Io9: When she says: “I’m the mule” – What are the emotions she feels at that time? How was it to do this scene?

Karlsen: There have been a lot of iterations of this scene, just in terms of length and how the revelation is played. In the end, I think it becomes something – it’s a bit like when something painful should be said, there is no masking. You have to say what it is and it was like a catharsis, really, for me as an actor, and I think for Bayta.

I think it’s really a good person who believes in that she does; It’s just that she couldn’t tell this truth and she has been standing there for so long. I think that the (pirate) describes him as a pre-order consumption, so everyone is finally in this room and she was waiting for this moment all our life. To be confronted with Gaal and to have Toran and Magnifico and all these people around her and the pirate dead, this is this moment of “Oh, that’s what I expected. And I am so happy that I can finally be honest on whom I am.” This is how it did me to make me play.

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Toran (Cody Fern) and Bayta. © Apple TV +

Io9: She says: “I will explain all this, I promise it” to Toran, but we do not hear that, beyond the flashback which shows that it is his childhood, not the mule, that we saw in the episode seven. Can you guide us through what you think that his plan looked like?

Karlsen: I had ideas. I think there is like a kind of gender – I don’t really know how to describe it, but a bit like a wild side in Bayta. It occurred through the difficulties that it can be super unforgiving when it needs, and I think it is also not afraid to sell itself almost in certain ways to be seen and become famous.

Her background was important enough for me in terms of determining how she found Toran. I imagine it was, as I said, a really difficult path. But she obviously had this power that she established herself in a way and in the process of reconciling and trying to understand and use her favor.

I think she met the pirate and it was quite strong, because it was that person who did not really care to be a complete brute. She could use it as a pawn and then rightly assert that she did not control him in his entirety, so for all the really horrible things he has done, she can somehow not reproach, in a way. Yes, certainly an interesting background frame, that’s for sure.

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Pilou Asbæk as “the mule”. © Apple TV +

IO9: Did you work with Pilou Asbæk to align your characters?

Karlsen: Yeah, definitely. We have discussed a lot. And I studied his scenes almost in the same way as I would study my own scenes, because I was so fascinated by what his character was doing and the goal he served for Bayta. But as I said, it was completely intentional that she chose someone like him, because she can somehow be in case of blame in terms of the type of terror and cruelty that he adopts.

It was therefore important for me to find something of a similarity in them, but it was also interesting to see the way he played it. I also watched a lot of his scenes. I came to look at him on the set and see what he was doing. Because I think there is a double conscience in Bayta, and you don’t really know what is true and what is not. It was interesting for me to have this darkness, almost in it, that this person is there to do these things and that she is a little conscious but not fully in control.

Io9: You have the meaning at the start of the season that people underestimate it. It presents itself as a kind of emptying and, therefore, people do not realize how intelligent it is. Do you think she deliberately leans in this?

Karlsen: Totally, yes. And that’s in that she has so much power in a way because she’s so much, as you said, semi-guy. But once you know – I mean, it was so exciting for me to read the scripts, because when you have the knowledge of who it is really, there is such a different weight. You realize how much it is not completely advanced and it is completely powerful and incredible.

Io9: Bayta is a character in Asimov’s books, although his story has changed a lot for the show, just as the mule reveals – in the books he is Magnifico, not Bayta, which is revealed as the disguised mule. Do you expect what the public reaction could be?

Karlsen: I’m not sure. It is something that I am a little nervous, but I am very excited. I think it’s an exciting change. I think that the show has succeeded very well by putting female perspectives in a genre that is not traditionally led by many women. So I think it’s a great turn and I think it’s exciting. And also, I think it’s fun to be maintained on your guard. It’s fun to be entertained and to be shocked and I think it certainly does it. So I hope that pure and hard fans of books are not too disappointed, but they are in fact excited by this change that has been made.

Foundation Season three is now in trouble on Apple TV +.

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